25
Sep
07

B-B-B-B-Bad to the bone, Mahmud Ahmedinijad

I am a big fan of bond movies. The bond movies gave the filmi world and the media many things. Bond movies have astonishing sport cars, aesthetically tailored suits, leading ladies with long legs and short dialogues. These materialistic items had such a deep impact on the viewers that achieving them became the criterion for success. Movie makers of that time came up with scripts containing similar characters and we were made to believe that a cleaned shaven and well build guy in the BMW is the good guy and the one with the scar is the bad guy.

We still watch and accept as true the new generation of make believe characters. If we look at this generation of action movies the villain has to be a Muslim. Especially the French and the Bollywood writers make sure to give the bad guy some Muslim background. Maybe all the bad guys in their countries are actually Muslims. In Pakistan they are all Muslims; politicians, robbers, religious fanatics all of them😛

But I am not discussing movies today. I am speaking about the real life make believe characters. Now for example look at make believe good guy character. Head of a Muslim state, dictator, highly unpopular, US ally. Now how many guys fall in this category; Gen. Pervaiz Musharaf, Husni Mubarak, Saudi Kings, King Abdullah of Jordan. So these people are not villains but good guys. Obviously not heroes😛 but friends of the hero. Like in Amitabh Bachans 80’s films; there use to be this nice Muslim guy who was not the hero himself but the friend of the hero and who gets killed in the end for being so freaking nice😛

So who’s the bad guy?

Mahmud Ahmedinijad

Why?

He kind of denies holocaust and want the whole issue to be re-researched.

You cant research on Holocaust?

No

Why?

It is already very well documented. There are Holocaust survivors and scholars who have documented thousands of research material and its enough.

Hmm.. so what he has to say about that?

According to him and I quote, Can you argue that researching a phenomenon is finished, forever done? Can we close the books for good on a historical event?

There are different perspectives that come to light after every research is done. Why should we stop research at all? Why should we stop the progress of science and knowledge?

You shouldn’t ask me why I’m asking questions. You should ask yourselves why you think that that’s questionable. Why do you want to stop the progress of science and research?

Do you ever take what’s known as absolute in physics? We had principles in mathematics that were granted to be absolute in mathematics for over 800 years. But new science has gotten rid of those absolutisms, come forward other different logics of looking at mathematics and sort of turned the way we look at it as a science altogether after 800 years.

So, we must allow researchers, scholars, they investigate into everything, every phenomenon — God, universe, human beings, history and civilization.

What else makes him so bad?

You know the Islamic laws forces the women in Iran to wear a hijab or scarf of some kind. That is limiting their freedom. Women should have some respect and freedom in Islamic governments.

Like they should be free to work at strip clubs like in Europe and America?

Why not?

I have heard that they don’t allow the Muslim girls to wear scarves in French schools?

Yes its against their law.

So you have a problem if the women are forced to follow the laws in Iran but laws in France?

Ahhh…..

What else makes him so evil and rogue?

His Govt. is funding terrorism in Iraq and wants to have total control over the country.

Like the American troops?

No, they just came to help and to get rid of the dictator

The dictator who was once an important ally to US?

He was a good guy back than.

Says who?

The guy who reads the news.

What do you think is his real agenda?

The destructions of Israel and peace from the world, but I tell you the UN and the civilized world will do everything to stop them.

Like destroying them instead?

Why not!

The UNO and your civilized world will stop IRAN like they stopped USA from attacking Iraq and Afghanistan?

Saddam had WMD’s

Oh really?


33 Responses to “B-B-B-B-Bad to the bone, Mahmud Ahmedinijad”


  1. September 26, 2007 at 5:25 am

    Very true. Nice narration … dude!!! Awsome…..

  2. September 26, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Mahmud Ahmedinijad should thank the Americans for giving him so much attention. Of late he was increasingly becoming isolated at home becuse of his economic policies.

  3. 3 Rajiv
    September 26, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    Pr3rna is right, Bush is his helping him a lot.

    I hower wouldn’t agree with all of the “very true nice narration”. It’s funny and conveniant to read, but it’s mostly propaganda using irony (which by nature is attractive and make-believe)

  4. September 26, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    @ Asim

    Thanks a lot ol pal🙂

    @ Pr3rna

    I believe its very difficult for an out and out honest person to be liked and admired by all fractions of the society and world in this case. I think he is courageous enough to point out at issues nobody would dare to touch. After his appearance at the Columbia University those Americans who value logic are able to see the human part of him despite all the false propaganda.

    @ Rajiv my friend🙂

    Which specific part did you find propaganda? I just listed down some very well known facts in a very convenient and kind of a funny way.

  5. September 26, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    lool, Very interesting post.. I liked it.. This Ahmadi nejad made his fans more by those words.. What do you think?😉

  6. September 26, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    @ Shahrzad

    Welcome to Ronin🙂

    It is very important for the American and European people to see the human and intellectual side of the Muslims. This can only be possible through dialogue. Violence can never be the solution to any issue.

  7. 7 becca
    September 26, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    good job man!! thanks for provokin our thought process its was a vry true depection fantastic idnt hav words to describe it was comendable on da behalf of nijad how he handle the q/a session at university of colombia..
    dis post is worth appreciatin gr8

  8. 8 oemar
    September 27, 2007 at 4:05 am

    I agree with Pr3rna and most of this post….
    /I have heard that they don’t allow the Muslim girls to wear scarves in French schools?/
    It is not just with muslim girls, but with turban sporting sikh boys as well.. I dont think France is singling out Musims when trying to implement its law of keeping ALL religious things away from schools….
    I must say that this post is very well written and at many points quite hilarious….
    PS: In Amitabh’s era movies, you can actually predict the good guy who will die in the end – he will never have a heroine to pair up with OR if he has, she will die much before the ending.🙂

  9. September 27, 2007 at 4:19 am

    What a load of crap.

    BTW, you forgot to mention CJ in the list of assholes trying to make innocent people’s lives hell.

  10. 10 lubz
    September 27, 2007 at 7:25 am

    A superb post!

    That doesn’t mean that i agree with your every point. Only recently, my trip to Iran has been eye-opener for me. People of Iran don’t rergards their president as hero, infact they are tired of his dictatorship. No one over there can speak freely, even i was under the illusion that they like their president. No, they dont! even though his photo is pratically on every building of Tehran.

    Last day, as i was waiting for my flight to home, i met this biology professor who studied in USA and than came back to her home country. We had an interesting conversation regarding hijabs and USA. She told me that even Non-Muslim ladies are made to wear hijab, even though its not in their religion so naturally there is a suppress unease from their part…

    As far as USA attacking Iran is concerned, when i voiced my concern to that same professor. She laughed and said; “Why would Usa attack us when all she has to do is brew another shia-sunni controversy and we will crumble down more quickly”

    So damn true!!!

    Why blame ‘kaafirs’ when we our selves are responsible for our miserable sorry state!

  11. September 27, 2007 at 9:27 am

    @ beeca

    thanks a lot. It was nice to find out that the post was up to your standard 😉 🙂 I have a long way to go…

    @ Oemar

    Thanx man. The french might not be singling out the Muslims but what different are they from any extremist Country the west point their fingers at?

    @Ayaz

    What CJ has to do with all this lolz.. 😀

  12. September 27, 2007 at 9:43 am

    @ Lubz

    Ahmedinijad’s party lost the recent city Govt. elections that proves that he is not a dictator and they hold free and fair elections in Iran unlike in our country. Secondly I would like you to look at the Iranian history after the great revolution. The whole elected house of parliment was bombed down, an elected Prime Minister was gunned down. Iraq attacked Iran and the war went on for 10 years. This and many more was carried out in this small span of 27 years with help of you know who.

    I am not fan of the Iranian President. as he is too mulla for a leftist like me 😛 but I cant find no error the way he carried out his foreign policy.

    As far as the Shia Sunni conflict is concerned, the sunnis are in the minority their even less then the number of Shias in our country. But still we havent heard any news that sunnis died in a bomb blast or sunni doctors were target killed etc etc yet this happens here in our country with Shittes still i am sure you will agree that no shia sunni conflict can EVER and I say EVER bring our country down🙂 inshallah

    thank you for your views

  13. September 27, 2007 at 10:18 am

    I have some words with Lupz..
    I am Iranian and I voted like too many other Iranians to Ahmadi Nejad. He got elected in a free election.
    Even if now i dont be his friend, i chose him. I didnt? I knew he is very mulla and bla bla..

    I have many criticisms toward him and i am completely disagree with part of what he does. Yet he is not really bad man and it is a fact that all Iranians know. He is simple person..
    Yet i personally got happy with his talks in US. He answered insults very good and handled them. Of course i got sad, very sad when those idiots who name themselves profs disrespected their guest, who they invited him, and who is political man of a nation. And it shows no even 1 meter free land in this world.
    The problem is powerful media which is western and so they make problems of east bigger than what it is and their governments do those jobs hidden! Just it😉

  14. September 27, 2007 at 10:35 am

    About Sunni Shia conflict in Iran, i think that professor is not aware enough about society of Iran.
    Iranians are not that much predictable nation.. I sincerely say that even i can not predict what they do in next presidental election. Maybe they vote AhmadiNejad again. Who knows?
    Iranians are different from other nations. We have lived together since whole of our history with different beliefs. There is kind of tolerance in Iran that i dont see even in Pakistan or Iraq. 90% population are shia, yet sunnis, shias, sufis, even christians and jews and zoroastrians live together. Love for homeland is more strong that love for sects. Like during Iran-Iraq war we had many martyrs from other sects or religions. They went by own to protect homeland.. They have their parlimant man, their worship places and churchs. It will be amazing for you if you know the biggest group of jews in muslim countries live in Iran. They are allowed to visit their relatives in Israel freely..

    Hijab is a law, like france which tries to ban religious student from schools. So if Iran says they wear hijab, iran is bad, yet if in France they ban hijabi student to go to school, that’s good job?!
    It is a law, every country has its restrictions and laws, and as long as it is law, even if i dont like or i like, i do it..
    So i think that prof doesnt know enough about her homeland, for she didnt live enough there!!

  15. September 27, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Hi there.

    1. I apologize for the Bollywood jackasses and their typecasting of Muslims. But then there’re such people everywhere.

    2. I wanted to write much but I’m on mobile and typing is tough. Shall add more to this once I’m on the Pc.

    Ra.

  16. September 27, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    offcourse dear u have a vry long way to go n its just da begginning keep up da gd work n always make me proud like u always do🙂

  17. 17 Rajiv
    September 27, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    Muslims are blind to their extremism and they think people in the west hate them as they hate the rest of the world.
    In french schools, the scarf was just a provocation from islam: hats, masks, turbans, whatever, have always been banned from schools before muslims significantly laid foot in Europe.
    you call the west extreme?
    yes you are right, in many terms of decay, too much will to integrate everyone, never hurt people (even christmas trees have been removed not to “shock” you know who).. and muslim immigrants are taking advantage of that, and pushing and pushing.
    Now compare with the situation of non-muslims in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, iran, Indonesia, Sudan…
    if the west was so bad, why would so many muslims migrate?

    you need to set the record straight and open your eyes. If tomorrow morning non-muslims behaved as muslims ans muslims as non-muslims.. what would you say?

    For all that I know, westerners try to understadn muslims as they can and most often grant them the benefit of doubt when they dont understand inproper behavior.

    What you said on movies is wrong.. I don’t recall seing so many movies with “muslim bad guys”. However, if you look at criminal statistics, muslims will account for about 85-95% of all crimes, when they still represent a small population in western europe.

    I don’t want to push it too far, but you should change your mind and stop unconditionnaly supporting everyone who has the label “muslim” no matter the circumstances.

    It seems everyone in this world admits being wrong when they are (Americans, Europeans, Indians, try to calm things down, seek fair and balacned solutions, and don’t hesitate to criticise and admit their governments are wrong when they are-which they are sometimes/often!!. On the other hand, there is no reciprocity, just “excuses”.
    Regarding history, islamists never acknowledge atrocities committed, never repent, never forgive, never forget, in short, never move on.

    My question to you is : Why??

  18. September 28, 2007 at 12:16 am

    Rajiv,

    1) USA came to Afghanistan to kick some Russian ass in the 80’s. They trained the Afghanis, gave them weapons and left. those freaks that were freedom fighters then became Taliban and you know the rest. Osama a CIA agent then also came to Afghanistan in the same era.

    2) USA helped SADDAM to impose war on IRAN. WMDs and chemical weapons were given to Iraqi troops by you know and was used on Irani children. iRAQ was invaded to get rid of SADDAM and the same WMDs mentioned earlier. Saddam was hanged, no WMD found.

    3) Iran, Syria and maybe Pakistan on the hit-list.

    4) Osama is a sand monkey and should go to dogys hell for all I care. I want him dead more than the Americans because nobody has suffered for no reason more than my country.

    5) I dont know if you watch Indi Movies but here is the list; D-COMPANY, AB TAK CHAPPAN, RISK, MAQBOOL, GADDAR etc etc

    *(Americans, Europeans, Indians, try to calm things down, seek fair and balacned solutions, and don’t hesitate to criticise and admit their governments are wrong when they are-which they are sometimes/often!*

    I think they should accept their mistakes and leave Iraq. Howsssat? But i dont think so they will do any of that you knw why because they are none of the things you mentioned above. I really like Indians and dont wanna bring India in to this discussion but as you mentioned India therefore i would like to remind you that we all remember what happened in Gujarat few years back and not to forget the Barbri Mosque incident.

  19. September 28, 2007 at 12:25 am

    If anyone felt offended by this post or my point of view than I am sorry. The purpose was to post my view point on the blog and not to mud slug like politicians. I would like to thank everyone especially Rajiv, Pr3rna and Lubs who felt that the post was not only crap but mere propaganda. I accept your criticism.

  20. 20 lubz
    September 28, 2007 at 5:11 am

    @Ammar

    I don’tthink you should apologize for your views, since many point of views at least to me ( and i’m sure that i’m not the only one) are valid! and please don’t EVER quit writing what you feel like saying regarding current affairs or your views on them, or it won’t be much fun to read your posts🙂

    You’ write superbly! it does’nt matter that everyone has to agree with you🙂

    @Sharzad
    Thank you for making me realixe where i was wrong🙂 i guess i shouldn’t place all views with just one conversation with that professor. Yes Iranians are beautiful people and may God always keep them united and strong.
    Plus I never said that i hate iranian president, i too like other pakistanis think that it is very brave of him to give USA his peace of mind!

  21. September 28, 2007 at 10:09 am

    Ammar, Lubz is right you don’t need to apologise for your views. We Indians are ashamed of what happened in Gujarat and the Babri Masjid episode. The problem although is that we think that Indians alone can help prevent the reoccurence of these black spots on our image. when people from outside especially Pakistan interfere it creates more difficult stuations for our Muslim brothers here in India because vested interests use that to thier advantage.
    Extremism is bad for everybody and so I dn’t think any sensible person can talk in favour of terrorism.
    With the change in the relations the Hindi films are changing too. Main Hoon Na was one such example. I have seen plays demonising Hindus on PTV and films demonising Pakistanis in India but now things are improving and we know that we are as human as you guys are. I cherish this friendship and inshallah we would be close friends one day. Who imagined Germany and USA will be friends one day.

  22. 22 Rajiv
    September 28, 2007 at 11:22 am

    Americans, Indians, and everybody make mistakes. as Pr3rna pointed it out, indians felt ashamed of what happened in Gujarat, and a lot of people were against the war in Iraq in America. About everyone will admit some of the points you mentionned above are true and ironically backfired at the US. Most people now know it was a bad idea to go into Iraq, and I belive they are still there because it would be cowardice to leave whenever things start getting out of control. Now, pulling out is not so easy if you care about the risks of leaving such a vacuum over such a troubled area. Believe me, the americans don’t wanna be there anymore.
    If you want a personal opinion of Ahmadinejad: I think he is a very smart and skillful man, he is not as bad a politician as others and is probably more honest with himself than most are. He even looks nice, and would be interesting to talk to personaly on many subjects. However, his stance on many issues cannot be accepted and his charismatic side makes him more dangerous than you think. (he looks cool on the photo here though) but you can’t support a man because of a few talents and a common religious/ethnic identity alone. Persia/Iran is probably less a threat to the world as some claim, but sometimes you just don’t want to take any risks, especially in a theocratic country with a “dangerous” leadership. Nuclear proliferation is more dangerous than you think.
    As Pr3rna said, (as I also believe) peace and friendship is possible. But it requires efforts an compromise from both sides. Let’s pray it keeps going the right way :p

  23. September 28, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Rajiv,
    I agree with you that Nuclear proliferation is dangerous. Of course. As long as Israel and US and west also wouldnt have Nuclear proliferation. When you see that Iran attack to a country?! But how many times in just 100 years ago you see that western countries come and attack to other countries?! You forgot how US, completely deleted 2 big cities in japan by nuclear bumbs? The very close dates are Afqaniatan and Iraq too. Now Which one is more dangerous for universal peace? West or East?!
    Sorry, i think you just look at the story from one side. Your name seems to be Indian. I wonder how you forgot the western colonial policity in India and how they treated Indians with hatred when in some places they used to say:” Dog and Indian should not come in” !!
    It is very clear fact that shows the hypocrite west governments are more stereotype and arrogant that any other governments and have more hetred toward other nations. They never bring good news for us to the middle east..

    You know what is meaning of War? How you say easily they are regretful to fight at Iraq? What a hell regretful, when everyday too many people are killed into Iraq, too many iraqi children die bcs of lack of health and food, too many iraqi women go through prostitution bcs of poverty?
    How you easily say they are regretful, when they destroyed a nation completely?! What a hell are those goverments that easily decide to make war and after that get regretful? Are they mentally normal?
    I wonder how you analyse events! I dont defend ahmadinejad, I just want you and kind of you stop looking blindly at events around you..

  24. September 28, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Every body makes mistakes, but it seems western governments’ mistakes never finish!

  25. 25 Rajiv
    September 28, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Like I said, some people seem to never forgive, never forget, never compromise, never move on. You are telling me and trying to turn people on about events that occured 60-100 years ago, at a very different time, and we (the world) have moved foward in many ways since, and all sides recognize their mistakes. (I’m not saying the world today is a happy ending, but inter-civilizational relations have greatly improved) Also, it’s not what people did in the past for reasons which now they recognize were wrong which matters the most. After a few decades, antagonism between many countries have risen and fallen US-Japan, England-France, France-Germany, Russia-others, England-USA, etc ,etc. People have lost their loved ones, homes, land, and yet… they move on, they accept to build a new future in peace. In many muslim countries, they still teach Israel once belonged to Islam, they teach southern Spain (which was an Arab colony 1000 years ago) should be brought back into the hands of the muslims. They teach to hate the west because of this or that, and as for Hindus, the Quran states that you should not (in theory) tolerate non abrahamic religions (like Hinduism).
    When you have people who proclaim this, and act accordingly, do you think it’s wise to allow them a nuclear arsenal??
    I don’t look blindly, I do my best to understand you, and I do somehow, but if you take everything into balance, you do not realize the possible consequences (or you have bad intentions), and it’s always easy to find scape goats for all of your problems (which you do, at least a lot of them). No one is perfect… and recognizing that is a first step. The 7 or so countries who have nuclear weapons today have many flaws, but none of them will likely use them. (Who is worried that England or France has the bomb? no one. Who feels uncomfortable with Pakistan? a lot of people. Maybe they are wrong, but it’s not because they hate you or politican manoeuvres. It’s because danger does lure and because the potential “risk” is high (sorry to say that)). India, as well as the others, has a clean and clear nuclear policy up to now. These 6/7 or so countries see this weapon mainly as a deterent, and believe many other countries could “safely” save such weapons (even modern Japan, Germany…), but it requires a lot of maturity, and I would still be against any more proliferation by principle because it makes it harder and harder to stop… and all countries will eventually claim a right to it, and I wouldn’t see where to set the limit.

    Your claim that Iran has done nothing terribly wrong militarywise “yet” is not a valid argument. By the way, why would Iran need nukes?
    (The answer: “why does the US or India?” is not an answer to the question!)

    Im still waiting for an answer from my question on a previous post🙂
    If I was wrong, here’s your chance to enlighten me!

    (PS: I’m sorry if I sound provocative, but it’s the best way to get people to speak out🙂 )

  26. September 28, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    hi ammar, nice place u have here, really🙂
    i liked the way u expressed ur opinion on the whole thing😀 emmmm ahmedinejad is the president of islamic country who doesnt kiss..-you know what- of the west..how cool&brave is that!!?? how unique is that? and they have nukes?? man..why shouldnt they, coz they r islamic country so it means they will use it to destroy the Earth and humankind? strange…
    I think it is obvious who is making the people suffer, humiliated, loosing their homes and loved ones..only coz they have lots of oil there..ops yeah, and coz they r muslims…its so obvious that hurts ur eyes. but u have to open it to see…

  27. 27 Rajiv
    September 29, 2007 at 10:50 am

    North Korea isn’t muslim and people don’t want them to have nukes either…

  28. September 29, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    @ Shahrazad

    I agree 100% with your point of view and am totally impressed with your arguments. Thanx for sharing your views with us🙂

    @Leila

    Welcome to Ronin🙂

    I am glad that you liked the place.

  29. October 2, 2007 at 2:17 am

    frankly this pic so reminds me of Uncle Sam !!

  30. 30 asmakhalil
    October 4, 2007 at 9:02 am

    Reveals the hypocrisy of the West!

  31. October 5, 2007 at 8:40 am

    it sure does Asma, thanx for ur comments

  32. 32 sayed m. ikhsan
    April 30, 2008 at 4:50 am

    asslammualaikum
    saya mahasiswa indonesia, yang begitu kagum dengan anda. dari ke pribadian anda, dan keberanian anda untuk melawan pemerintahan amirika-israel. dan yang paling kagumi dari anda adalah: cara anda berpakaian yang sangat sederhana, padahal anda kan seorang peresiden. jujur dalam hati saya, jarang ada peresiden yang berpakaian sederhana seperti anda di zaman sekarang. saya sangat mendukung sekali perogram nuklir iran. semoga anda di lindungin ALLAH S.W.T. maaf pak da satu lagi yang harus saya bilang, saya tertarik dengan ajaran syiah. banyak orang-orang yang mengatakan syiah itu sesat, tapi setelah saya baca dan saya pelajari ajaran syiah lah menurut saya benar tidak melenceng dari AL-QURAN dan SUNNAH NABI. sekali lagi saya terimakasi kepada anda yang telah mau baca mail saya. semoga anda sehat selalu, dan di lindungi ALLAH dan Imam-Imam 12. salam kepada anak-anak anda dan rakyat iran. salam saya sayed m. ikhsan

  33. 33 ryan
    July 2, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    gooooooooo……..ahmedinijad
    saya terus mendukung mu


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